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Tutorial 2 - Armature n Stand by RennardX Tutorial 2 - Armature n Stand by RennardX
Hoo boy.........really.

I wouldn't follow this one too too much seeing as I'm not the most qualified person when it comes to stands seeing as I hardly use it once I've built it.

*is a freak*

Hope you learn something from this. Srsly. :laughing:

Armature n Stand [you are here now]
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Laikari Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
IVE BEEN LOOKING ALL OVER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

sad how google can't always find answers for you.

I'll try this as soon as I get some materials :)
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RennardX Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow! That's great to hear :D

Haha yeah, that's the funny thing about google. Guess it's not master of teh internets lol

Good luck! ^_^
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Atisuto93 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The tutorial is quite helpful, but I have a problem:
I can't seem to buy a wooden plank anywhere in my small town, and I have no idea where I can buy them online, cause the german translation gives me some other results, any ideas? :/
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RennardX Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay so I just did some googling and wow it is hard to figure out what to call these things exactly, but I found in the google search for "Wooden circle plaques" gives the right items or wooden plates.

Using that gave me a site with something like this shop.hobbylobby.com/products/5…    or www.etsy.com/listing/107189051…

So I'm not sure what the German translation is.......let's see...... like this? Using search "Unvollendete hölzerne Gedenktafel Kreis" gave german.alibaba.com/product-tp/…

I hope that helps a little. :XD:

Best of luck! :)
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Atisuto93 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, that was my Problem too :D I searched like days and found something that isn't too expensive. But thanks a lot, I really appreciate it :)
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LostGryphin Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the tips!
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Umerura10 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012
I know this is a amateur question... but did you use air dry clay? Because i know you cant put a wooden base in the oven?
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RennardX Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hello, Nope, I didn't use air dry. It is a polymer type clay that is baked.

I do put the base in the oven. The temperatures used haven't been a problem. They are low enough that that the base doesn't even burn. ^_^
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Umerura10 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
Thank you!
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chinggay Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2011  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
i'm curious why use a solder wire? why not and aluminum wire? i'm asking because i'm new to using wires thanks :D
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RennardX Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I think at the time I didn't know about aluminum wire as an option. I think if it's wire, you can bend it with your hands and it does hold a good form then it oughta work. :D The solder really just came to my mind because....I used to work in a hardware store! :XD:
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Lunatiri Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2010
great tutorial, Michaels also has them for like 60 cents if you dont need a huge one, i think the're a couple of inches
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paralax Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2010   Interface Designer
I know it's a bit late, but to solve your armature problem, try this:
While you're at Home Depot picking up wire, pick up a 6" long, 3/8" (I believe that's the thickness) threaded rod. Secure with a washer and nut on top, washer and wingnut on bottom, and you're good to go. Build your armature off of this base.

When creating your armature, secure with propoxy or any other workable epoxy (the kind that comes in a tube and you cut and mix by hand- you can find it by all of the other epoxies in Home Depot, or in the plumbing section)
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RennardX Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh thanks! I had never ever thought about the threaded rod. I do know one time I was at Home Depot and they looked at me crazy when I looked for wingnuts though. Luckily I do know where to get those. If I ever get into Sculpey again I'll have to try something like this. Thanks!
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Djake Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Here's a technique I got from Katherine Dewey's book "Creating Lifelike figures in Polymer Clay." (An invaluable resource, by the way. It's out of print,and I had to pay $140 CAN for a copy, but I still consider it a sound investment.)
First, sculpt your head and torso as you would for any project. Use a tapestry needle (or whatever tool is handy) to poke small, deep holes into the torso at the hips and shoulders. Bake the torso long enough that it becomes hard.
Next, make a wire armature for the legs (use trimmed down coat hangers, which are cheap and hold their rigidity wonderfully), anchoring them in the base and the hips with vinyl adhesive, which won't melt as long as you keep the oven on low heat. Sculpt the the legs and arms as normal.
I find this method to be a little more time consuming, but it makes for a very stable figure. You might like to consider it over the soldering wire.
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Rendaylor Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
solder wire is designed specifically to melt at high temperatures, so it's not a good idea to use it for armature. instead, try 14 or 16 gauge aluminum fencing wire available at hardware stores, it's sold on spindles as well.
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RennardX Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Hahaha, ah thank you.

It is true it does get soft, but luckily for me I haven't been cooking at high temperatures for this to be a problem. ^_^
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SlayerTerraBrei Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
~laughing at self~ i read this a while ago and saw that you should not use epoxy. silly me when i went to attach my nearly completed sculpture to its base, i used epoxy...then stuck it in the oven ~smacks self~ now my poor thing has misshapen hair

thats for making this though, it has helped alot with with how I'm making things
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RennardX Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Awww man, the epoxy thing.......live and learn I guess. I don't know what made me think it'd be a good thing in the first place. :XD:

Glad it could be of help. ^_^
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SlayerTerraBrei Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2008
:hug: silly thing is, i tried to apply epoxy to a pre-baked figure and it melted the sculpy!.....should of taken the advice to avoid epoxy period. lol
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RennardX Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
So epoxy melts already baked Sculpey?! I did not know that. :o
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SlayerTerraBrei Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2008
it did in my case anyway. i know weird. its like the epoxy never set, and started to dissolve the sculpey.
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Mackinskey-VibZy Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Back then, I made a stickman(of intertwined wire) but with no platforms. The result is that ther's difficulty to make it stand. Huhu. If I had seen your tutorial back then, I might have done that sculp. Thank u very much for the tutorial!!!!!
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RennardX Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh that would make things difficult. O_O

You're welcome. Glad it helped. :)
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Mackinskey-VibZy Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, now, I'm doing a new one! Thanks a lot again!!!!
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Reno420 Featured By Owner May 19, 2007
:clap: dude this is waaaaaay better then paying to take a class :D
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RennardX Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
If they made people pay for this, that's sad. I'm glad it was of good use. ^_^
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Reno420 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2007
^_^
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CrystalGraziano Featured By Owner May 15, 2007
I love you. D:

Wire amatures are THE DEVIL. Maybe I'll actually try making something with one though, now that I know how to use it. ^^;

Can you still stick the wood plank in the oven? Or would it burn the house down? D:
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RennardX Featured By Owner May 16, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Yep you can cook wood in the oven. The recommended temperature on the sculpey box is what I normally use and I haven't had problems with it and wood. I even used one of those little wood skewers one time and it was alright.

I was very afraid of putting wood in the oven at first though. It's like you said about the house burnage. :lmao:
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InceptusNovus Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011
so did your frame work? Or did it mush mash in the oven?
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RennardX Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
In this case it worked for me! Though I've had some that took a dive in the oven. Feel like a doctor trying to save its life afterwards. XD
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InceptusNovus Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011
LOL!! Ok cool. thanks a bunch! Something else I read was that someone used gardening wire, that's used for holding up tomatoes or small trees? That seems to be a pretty sturdy wire. It's cheap too.

Thanks for your tutorials though. :) They're great!
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CrystalGraziano Featured By Owner May 16, 2007
Okay thank you! ^_^

WTF IS WITH YOUR ICON?!?!?! D''''''''''''':
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RennardX Featured By Owner May 17, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
My icon has been Murk'd.

It's kinda a fad thing. :laughing:
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CrystalGraziano Featured By Owner May 19, 2007
It scaryfied D:
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white-materia Featured By Owner May 12, 2007
This is the part I have most trouble with... getthing the damn wire to stop jiggling around. I'll try this out later today. I think I'll get some thicker wire.

Thanks for the tips m'lady ^_^
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RennardX Featured By Owner May 13, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Yep, me too. It's a necessary evil. :shakefist:

I hope this tutorial helps you in some way. It still feels almost unnecessary to make it, but I think that's just my imagination.
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WhiteDevil-Kaiit Featured By Owner May 12, 2007
Hurr, I hate stands xB I got me a plank of wood and drilled holes into it... then gave up on trying to get the armature secured and didn't bother with it xD Mebbe I should follow your advice next time though :) Thanks for sharing your knowledge once again ^_^!

Also, it's great you add where you went wrong so others don't do the same thing - I'm the kinda person who'd use cutters as pliers too Dx Luckily mine are both in one thing.
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RennardX Featured By Owner May 13, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
It's kinda funny you said that because I've pretty much given up on the stand with the model I'm using for this tut. I keep it there for when I'm not working on it, but otherwise when I'm sculpting I push it over to the side. XD

At first I didn't wanna share my mistakes, but I figured they'd be helpful to others to know what to do and NOT to do as well.

Thank you. :)
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Odd-One-Out Featured By Owner May 12, 2007
Using wire cutters :rofl:

Ya know, this is really informative, who would've thought that you used paperclips and solder?! Excellent stuff =D
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RennardX Featured By Owner May 13, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
:dance:

You shoulda heard the cursing when I cut the arm off. Oh man............XD
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Odd-One-Out Featured By Owner May 13, 2007
You should've heard me scream at my brohter when he got me banned from the PS2 just now!
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FreeTheCows Featured By Owner May 12, 2007  Student General Artist
Tee-Hee Awesome!!!=D
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HeWhoWalksWithTigers Featured By Owner May 12, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
Well done... I just wish I had this back in high school.
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RennardX Featured By Owner May 13, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Me too. All my stuff suck from back then. Something like this would have helped immensly.
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HollieBollie Featured By Owner May 12, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Wow that chuck of wood cost you $10?? I can get them for a dollar at my craft store :0
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RennardX Featured By Owner May 12, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Figures I shoulda shopped around.

I think my pitfall was I went with solid oak. >_< *I is stupid*
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HollieBollie Featured By Owner May 12, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh my D: Well now you know!
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